Comments on: A Nice Thing to Say About Quark… http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/ Cheap Printer Ink Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:13:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: A Nice Thing to Say About Quark… http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/comment-page-1/#comment-1020 A Nice Thing to Say About Quark… Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:30:50 +0000 http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/?p=210#comment-1020 [...] You can read his entire post here, A Nice Thing to Say About Quark… [...] [...] You can read his entire post here, A Nice Thing to Say About Quark… [...]

]]> By: Allan Larson http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/comment-page-1/#comment-916 Allan Larson Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:20:44 +0000 http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/?p=210#comment-916 I seem to recall Quark dipping their toes into Web design to repurpose print jobs into Web pages. Nice idea, but in the fog of war, you left your core users. Web designers are into Starbucks and GoLive, not typographic powerhouses where kerning, leading, hinting and overprints matter. Like the randomness of the Monkey Cam on Letterman circa 1987, once you strap technology onto a designer, who knows how many layers, PMS colors, sparkly drop shadows, white boxes, miracles of right-brained achievement you can create? Make Quark export out a non-flattened Adobe compliant PDF that allows layering, full editability, and an automatic Bleed Fixer and you have yourself pack at Pole Position in Prepress world. The game ain't over yet. If Quark can somehow partner with Starbucks and Apple so the upload to [print provider] can be done over Coldplay music and a lightly roasted Nicaraguan medium roast scents, you may usurp the mighty California Adobe. Until then, old battle stories keep coming back. BTW, I am still ashamed of Corel Draw for the Stock Photo CD I bought of the Canadian Rockies. If you play the pictures in order, you can literally see the person on the train arriving in Banff, walking off, and taking pictures right down the the streets until they could hit the Rose and Crown for a couple of Grapphopper Ales and they are done. I seem to recall Quark dipping their toes into Web design to repurpose print jobs into Web pages. Nice idea, but in the fog of war, you left your core users. Web designers are into Starbucks and GoLive, not typographic powerhouses where kerning, leading, hinting and overprints matter.

Like the randomness of the Monkey Cam on Letterman circa 1987, once you strap technology onto a designer, who knows how many layers, PMS colors, sparkly drop shadows, white boxes, miracles of right-brained achievement you can create?

Make Quark export out a non-flattened Adobe compliant PDF that allows layering, full editability, and an automatic Bleed Fixer and you have yourself pack at Pole Position in Prepress world. The game ain’t over yet.

If Quark can somehow partner with Starbucks and Apple so the upload to [print provider] can be done over Coldplay music and a lightly roasted Nicaraguan medium roast scents, you may usurp the mighty California Adobe. Until then, old battle stories keep coming back.

BTW, I am still ashamed of Corel Draw for the Stock Photo CD I bought of the Canadian Rockies. If you play the pictures in order, you can literally see the person on the train arriving in Banff, walking off, and taking pictures right down the the streets until they could hit the Rose and Crown for a couple of Grapphopper Ales and they are done.

]]> By: Jeff Lazerus http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Jeff Lazerus Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:43:10 +0000 http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/?p=210#comment-907 Quark used to be all that... and for those of us who have stuck with it, it still is. And I've met a few people at Quark HQ, being in Denver. They are working diligently, probably twice as hard as the prepress people who use the software, to give us what we want. They know their core user group is the professional designer and PSP, so they are designing their software for that market. Adobe, on the other hand, is a behemoth and constantly alienates the print service provider market with crap like transparency and overly complicated UI. Even Photoshop, arguably the most useful and most stable graphics software ever devised, is becoming some kind of crazy video/web/multimedia app, I hardly recognize Illustrator anymore, and who can forget the "Print with FedEx/Kinko's" fiasco from last year in Acrobat? Last time I upgraded CS, I was on the phone with "customer support" for like 3 hours. Frankly, I'm sick of the Quark bashing by prepress people. Thanks for pointing out one of the many good things about Quark. Now, if they would only lower the price and keep the thing from crashing... :) Quark used to be all that… and for those of us who have stuck with it, it still is. And I’ve met a few people at Quark HQ, being in Denver. They are working diligently, probably twice as hard as the prepress people who use the software, to give us what we want. They know their core user group is the professional designer and PSP, so they are designing their software for that market. Adobe, on the other hand, is a behemoth and constantly alienates the print service provider market with crap like transparency and overly complicated UI. Even Photoshop, arguably the most useful and most stable graphics software ever devised, is becoming some kind of crazy video/web/multimedia app, I hardly recognize Illustrator anymore, and who can forget the “Print with FedEx/Kinko’s” fiasco from last year in Acrobat? Last time I upgraded CS, I was on the phone with “customer support” for like 3 hours.

Frankly, I’m sick of the Quark bashing by prepress people. Thanks for pointing out one of the many good things about Quark. Now, if they would only lower the price and keep the thing from crashing… :)

]]> By: Allan Larson http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/comment-page-1/#comment-894 Allan Larson Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:06:51 +0000 http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/?p=210#comment-894 I must confess that I did cherry pick Quark jobs back in the day. It was Quark or Corel Draw. Do you blame me? Want a laugh? Load up Corel clip art and look at Bette Midler an Cher. They are the same except some kid painted the hair more red. Somehow someone who had Quark put them into a different league and it meant less teeth grinding at night. I remember trying to get color separations (negative Emulsion Down) from Microsoft Word (with crops) and I said that's it. Cherry pick time. I gotta say, they got comfy and now Adobe is all that. Too bad for the folks in Colorado. Allan Larson I must confess that I did cherry pick Quark jobs back in the day. It was Quark or Corel Draw. Do you blame me? Want a laugh? Load up Corel clip art and look at Bette Midler an Cher. They are the same except some kid painted the hair more red.

Somehow someone who had Quark put them into a different league and it meant less teeth grinding at night. I remember trying to get color separations (negative Emulsion Down) from Microsoft Word (with crops) and I said that’s it. Cherry pick time. I gotta say, they got comfy and now Adobe is all that. Too bad for the folks in Colorado.
Allan Larson

]]> By: Dennis http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/index.php/archive/a-nice-thing-to-say-about-quark/comment-page-1/#comment-883 Dennis Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:22:05 +0000 http://www.prepresspilgrim.com/?p=210#comment-883 Hehe We used to call it Ragemaker... Hehe We used to call it Ragemaker…

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